Benz,
I agree whole heartedly with you on Libya. We had/have no business going there. There was no stated purpose, according to the Joint Chiefs of Staff there was no threat to the U.S. and Gadaffi wasn't doing anything against us. This was a U.N. Mandate and since when have we taken orders from the U.N.? The reason for the mandate is even questionable when you look at what is going on in Syria.
The number of innocents in Iraq I would have to say is questionable, probably an anti-war groups number, and most of the innocents have been killed by Iraqi's, Sunni insurgents, and Shia militias backed by Iran with the occasional Al Quaeda attacks.
If we had been allowed to bring the divisions down from Turkey like it was originally designed to wipe out the insurgents in the North of Iraq there would have been a totally different outcome of the situation there from the start. And tens of thousands of lives would have been saved.
The U.S. military is under such restraints in both Iraq and Afganistan that we put our troops in danger all the time trying to assure the civilian population is not endangered. We are fighting with one hand tied behind our backs. As many as 30 people have to be consulted up the chain of command in order to make a strategic strike on a target. That's crazy. Can you imagine Gen. George Patton waiting for permission to bomb or shell a building because some civilian might be injured? Do the Taliban or Al Quaeda worry about civilians? Hell no, they target them. Just as they will and do ours.
I also agree that we have given up way too many freedoms at home. I believe the Homeland Security and TSA are a joke. Obama has the Muslim Brotherhood training agents how to "track down terrorists." That's obsurd! They are allowed to see everything we are doing, it's like letting the fox into the hen house. We have had dozens of FBI and Homeland Security agents resign in protest.
browndawg