On staar lawsuit they stated that the number of buses were like twenty thousand and they might be overstated or double counted but the 20k buses is still a lot and overstatement was like 2-3% if my memory is right - don't remember the exact - so their is abusiness but obvious the size - profitability and cash at the firm is obvious the big question - As was quoted on wsj from ccme - the piper audit will prove all the major accusation by muddy and others will be proven false . The question is " major " and we have not heard anything . The only other positive is Nussbaum - and staar keep delaying the court hearing . Hopefully , ccme had to give staar something because they came out guns blazing then backed off a bit ? Thats only positive and it's a major stretch but so it lottery ticket too- ha