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Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:05:08 PM
China may or may not seriously consider sending troops to Kyrgyzstan.
The statement that China may “seriously consider” sending troops to Kyrgyzstan was made by Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao. As such it was probably made on purpose and not in error. This remark may be a fishing expedition for a response or a warning that if the U.S. and the U.S. backed terrorist group, HT, who are aligned with the Uighurs of the Xinjiang Autonomous Region make one more move its over.
Background:
A big part of the Grand Game is to surround, contain and break apart Russia and China. You can imagine how thrilled they are. To this end Bush has established a Uighur Government-in-Exile.
China has already protested the establishment of a Uighur Government-in-Exile in Washington and Beijing has repeatedly made it clear that it will not tolerate any political interference from abroad, where pro-independence Uighur organizations exist. This means us. It would seem we are orchestrating a riot in the Xinjiang province of China. Kyrgyzstan is one of the countries that borders the Xinjiang region.
#msg-4098311
Uzbek President Islam Karimov blamed Islamic extremists for the uprising in Andijan, the ex-Soviet republic's fourth-largest city. He claimed that people from Kyrgyzstan were among the organizers of the violence in the city, where protesters stormed a prison and occupied the local government offices before government forces put down the uprising.
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The Hizbut Tehrir (HT) are being blamed.
In addition to influencing Afghanistan the anti-government propaganda of the HT might have had some contribution to the public uprising against the Akayev government in Kyrgyzstan. Hizbut Tehir began activism in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.
#msg-6332510
The Hizbut Tehir is stirring up revolution all the way to and including Kyrgyzstan.
China's main concern with Kyrgyzstan centers on China's own large and restive Muslim Turkic Uighur minority, which lives primarily in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. That province makes up one-sixth of China's territory and borders on seven countries, including Kyrgyzstan, where the frontier is largely mountainous.
#msg-5871359
Here’s the punch line. The Hizbut Tehir has supposedly aligned with the Uighurs.
China is being directly threatened by these uprisings. Make no mistake China will treat any attempt to break away the Xinjiang region in the same manner as Taiwan. This is a threat against China’s sovereignity.
While Bush obviously backs the Uighurs, given that the HT has become a real threat to the stability of the entire region in this instance he is also probably looking on in horror. He apparently has no control over the HT whereas he did have influence over certain Uighurs.
About 1 million Chinese troops are stationed in Xinjiang.
#msg-5871359
In addition to the 1 million troops China is considering adding strengthen 2.5 million semi-military in Xinjiang.
#msg-4248304
There is little hard and fast information as to the extent of organized opposition to Chinese rule within Xinjiang, but Beijing has repeatedly made it clear that it will not tolerate any political interference from abroad, where pro-independence Uighur organizations exist. Uighur separatists accuse the ruling Chinese of political, religious, and cultural repression.
Beijing is as worried about "splittism" in Xinjiang as it is about "splittism" in neighboring Tibet or "separatism" in Taiwan. The closing of the border trading station at Irkeshtam -- where Uighurs live on both sides of the frontier -- at peak trading season is probably intended as a warning to the Uighurs and the new authorities in Kyrgyzstan that Beijing will protect its interests. The politically motivated opening or closing of trading stations is a centuries-old tool of Chinese diplomacy.
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/3/50BB93C4-E5D0-4009-A01D-4646E5ADD5D7.html
Imankulov said he has obtained information indicating that members of different radical groups may be attempting to join forces in a single organization. He said groups like the IMU, Hizb ut-Tahrir, Uighur separatists, and Tajik and Kyrgyz Islamists are uniting, calling themselves the Islamic Movement of Central Asia. Under the guidance of the IMU, he said, the new group’s aim is to create an Islamic caliphate that will begin in Uzbekistan before expanding to Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan and moving on to the rest of Central Asia and northwest China.
-Am
China May Consider Sending Troops to Kyrgyzstan — Paper
Created: 31.05.2005 12:03 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 12:03 MSK, 17 hours 25 minutes ago
MosNews
China may “seriously consider” sending its troops to Kyrgyzstan, the Huaxia Shibao newspaper reported on Tuesday, citing Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao.
Kyrgyz acting president Kurmanbek Bakiyev said earlier this month that he would authorize the deployment of troops of the Russia-led Collective Security Treaty Organization, and those of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in his country, Chinese media have reported.
The announcement came following mass riots in Uzbek regions bordering Kyrgyzstan. The Uzbek authorities blamed the upheavals on Islamic extremists. Liu Jianchao underlined that so far China had never deployed its forces in other countries, the newspaper reported.
“Deployment of armed forces in the southern districts of Kyrgyzstan could prove useful for combating terrorism, separatism and extremism,” it quoted him as saying. However, China does not have this experience, he added.
So far the Chinese Foreign Ministry has not commented on the statement, the RIA-Novosti news agency said.
The Shanghai Cooperation Organization was set up in June 2001. The group includes Kazakhstan, China, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
The Collective Security Treaty was signed between Belarus, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Armenia in 1992.
The main goal of both organizations is to ensure security in Central Asia.
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/05/31/chinkyrg.shtml
China not considering military presence in Kyrgyzstan
BEIJING. May 31 (Interfax-China) - The Chinese Foreign Ministry on Tuesday refuted a report by Huaxia Shibao newspaper that China is planning to discuss a military presence in south Kyrgyzstan together with other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).
In response to a question from Interfax, a ministry spokesman said: "As you know, the SCO has never considered the question of setting up military bases."
http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/politics/28.html?id_issue=11304473
No need to deploy new military base in Kyrgyzstan - head of the Collective Security Treaty Organization
20:16
BISHKEK, May 31 (RIA Novosti, Yulia Orlova) - There is no need to deploy a military base in southern Kyrgyzstan, Secretary General of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSO) Nikolai Bordyuzha said on Tuesday. The CSTO comprises Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Armenia.
"I don't know why the base should be deployed," he said and explained that CSTO bases could not and would not be used in case of intrastate conflicts even if they posed a threat to regional security. "In such cases, strong and consolidated law enforcement agencies should act. There is no need for military bases," Bordyuzha said.
The United States and Russia each has a military base in Kyrgyzstan.
The developments in the Fergana valley on May 13are another proof of the need "to "einforce the CSTO political and law enforcement activities," he said.
On May 13, 2005, insurgents seized a prison and administrative buildings in Andizhan (Uzbekistan). Many people killed and wounded in the turmoil.
The acting foreign minister of Kyrgyzstan, Roza Otunbaeva, said on Tuesday that her country had never raised the question of housing additional foreign military bases, particularly, Chinese ones.
According to Otunbaeva, the Kyrgyz government "cannot see the territory of Kyrgyzstan as a congestion of foreign bases."
An official of the Chinese Foreign Ministry said that China may seriously consider sending its forces to southern Kyrgyzstan. "The deployment of forces in southern Kyrgyzstan may be useful in the fight against terrorism, separatism and extremism," he said. "China has no such experience," he added.
However, the official spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry said that China had never sent its troops abroad commenting on this issue at Bishkek's request.
Bordyuzha arrived in Bishkek on May 30. During the visit, he met with acting Kyrgyz President Kurmanbek Bakiyev and other top officials.
They focused on the upcoming CSTO summit in Moscow. According to Bordyuzha, "making a single list of terrorist organizations" will be a key issue on the summit's agenda. It should be recognized by all the CSTO members. It can be an "unprecedented decision" letting all the member states "put up joint resistance to these terrorist organizations," Bordyuzha said.
http://en.rian.ru/world/20050531/40450153.html
The statement that China may “seriously consider” sending troops to Kyrgyzstan was made by Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao. As such it was probably made on purpose and not in error. This remark may be a fishing expedition for a response or a warning that if the U.S. and the U.S. backed terrorist group, HT, who are aligned with the Uighurs of the Xinjiang Autonomous Region make one more move its over.
Background:
A big part of the Grand Game is to surround, contain and break apart Russia and China. You can imagine how thrilled they are. To this end Bush has established a Uighur Government-in-Exile.
China has already protested the establishment of a Uighur Government-in-Exile in Washington and Beijing has repeatedly made it clear that it will not tolerate any political interference from abroad, where pro-independence Uighur organizations exist. This means us. It would seem we are orchestrating a riot in the Xinjiang province of China. Kyrgyzstan is one of the countries that borders the Xinjiang region.
#msg-4098311
Uzbek President Islam Karimov blamed Islamic extremists for the uprising in Andijan, the ex-Soviet republic's fourth-largest city. He claimed that people from Kyrgyzstan were among the organizers of the violence in the city, where protesters stormed a prison and occupied the local government offices before government forces put down the uprising.
#msg-6349335
The Hizbut Tehrir (HT) are being blamed.
In addition to influencing Afghanistan the anti-government propaganda of the HT might have had some contribution to the public uprising against the Akayev government in Kyrgyzstan. Hizbut Tehir began activism in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.
#msg-6332510
The Hizbut Tehir is stirring up revolution all the way to and including Kyrgyzstan.
China's main concern with Kyrgyzstan centers on China's own large and restive Muslim Turkic Uighur minority, which lives primarily in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. That province makes up one-sixth of China's territory and borders on seven countries, including Kyrgyzstan, where the frontier is largely mountainous.
#msg-5871359
Here’s the punch line. The Hizbut Tehir has supposedly aligned with the Uighurs.
China is being directly threatened by these uprisings. Make no mistake China will treat any attempt to break away the Xinjiang region in the same manner as Taiwan. This is a threat against China’s sovereignity.
While Bush obviously backs the Uighurs, given that the HT has become a real threat to the stability of the entire region in this instance he is also probably looking on in horror. He apparently has no control over the HT whereas he did have influence over certain Uighurs.
About 1 million Chinese troops are stationed in Xinjiang.
#msg-5871359
In addition to the 1 million troops China is considering adding strengthen 2.5 million semi-military in Xinjiang.
#msg-4248304
There is little hard and fast information as to the extent of organized opposition to Chinese rule within Xinjiang, but Beijing has repeatedly made it clear that it will not tolerate any political interference from abroad, where pro-independence Uighur organizations exist. Uighur separatists accuse the ruling Chinese of political, religious, and cultural repression.
Beijing is as worried about "splittism" in Xinjiang as it is about "splittism" in neighboring Tibet or "separatism" in Taiwan. The closing of the border trading station at Irkeshtam -- where Uighurs live on both sides of the frontier -- at peak trading season is probably intended as a warning to the Uighurs and the new authorities in Kyrgyzstan that Beijing will protect its interests. The politically motivated opening or closing of trading stations is a centuries-old tool of Chinese diplomacy.
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/3/50BB93C4-E5D0-4009-A01D-4646E5ADD5D7.html
Imankulov said he has obtained information indicating that members of different radical groups may be attempting to join forces in a single organization. He said groups like the IMU, Hizb ut-Tahrir, Uighur separatists, and Tajik and Kyrgyz Islamists are uniting, calling themselves the Islamic Movement of Central Asia. Under the guidance of the IMU, he said, the new group’s aim is to create an Islamic caliphate that will begin in Uzbekistan before expanding to Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan and moving on to the rest of Central Asia and northwest China.
-Am
China May Consider Sending Troops to Kyrgyzstan — Paper
Created: 31.05.2005 12:03 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 12:03 MSK, 17 hours 25 minutes ago
MosNews
China may “seriously consider” sending its troops to Kyrgyzstan, the Huaxia Shibao newspaper reported on Tuesday, citing Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao.
Kyrgyz acting president Kurmanbek Bakiyev said earlier this month that he would authorize the deployment of troops of the Russia-led Collective Security Treaty Organization, and those of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in his country, Chinese media have reported.
The announcement came following mass riots in Uzbek regions bordering Kyrgyzstan. The Uzbek authorities blamed the upheavals on Islamic extremists. Liu Jianchao underlined that so far China had never deployed its forces in other countries, the newspaper reported.
“Deployment of armed forces in the southern districts of Kyrgyzstan could prove useful for combating terrorism, separatism and extremism,” it quoted him as saying. However, China does not have this experience, he added.
So far the Chinese Foreign Ministry has not commented on the statement, the RIA-Novosti news agency said.
The Shanghai Cooperation Organization was set up in June 2001. The group includes Kazakhstan, China, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
The Collective Security Treaty was signed between Belarus, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Armenia in 1992.
The main goal of both organizations is to ensure security in Central Asia.
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/05/31/chinkyrg.shtml
China not considering military presence in Kyrgyzstan
BEIJING. May 31 (Interfax-China) - The Chinese Foreign Ministry on Tuesday refuted a report by Huaxia Shibao newspaper that China is planning to discuss a military presence in south Kyrgyzstan together with other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).
In response to a question from Interfax, a ministry spokesman said: "As you know, the SCO has never considered the question of setting up military bases."
http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/politics/28.html?id_issue=11304473
No need to deploy new military base in Kyrgyzstan - head of the Collective Security Treaty Organization
20:16
BISHKEK, May 31 (RIA Novosti, Yulia Orlova) - There is no need to deploy a military base in southern Kyrgyzstan, Secretary General of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSO) Nikolai Bordyuzha said on Tuesday. The CSTO comprises Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Armenia.
"I don't know why the base should be deployed," he said and explained that CSTO bases could not and would not be used in case of intrastate conflicts even if they posed a threat to regional security. "In such cases, strong and consolidated law enforcement agencies should act. There is no need for military bases," Bordyuzha said.
The United States and Russia each has a military base in Kyrgyzstan.
The developments in the Fergana valley on May 13are another proof of the need "to "einforce the CSTO political and law enforcement activities," he said.
On May 13, 2005, insurgents seized a prison and administrative buildings in Andizhan (Uzbekistan). Many people killed and wounded in the turmoil.
The acting foreign minister of Kyrgyzstan, Roza Otunbaeva, said on Tuesday that her country had never raised the question of housing additional foreign military bases, particularly, Chinese ones.
According to Otunbaeva, the Kyrgyz government "cannot see the territory of Kyrgyzstan as a congestion of foreign bases."
An official of the Chinese Foreign Ministry said that China may seriously consider sending its forces to southern Kyrgyzstan. "The deployment of forces in southern Kyrgyzstan may be useful in the fight against terrorism, separatism and extremism," he said. "China has no such experience," he added.
However, the official spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry said that China had never sent its troops abroad commenting on this issue at Bishkek's request.
Bordyuzha arrived in Bishkek on May 30. During the visit, he met with acting Kyrgyz President Kurmanbek Bakiyev and other top officials.
They focused on the upcoming CSTO summit in Moscow. According to Bordyuzha, "making a single list of terrorist organizations" will be a key issue on the summit's agenda. It should be recognized by all the CSTO members. It can be an "unprecedented decision" letting all the member states "put up joint resistance to these terrorist organizations," Bordyuzha said.
http://en.rian.ru/world/20050531/40450153.html
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