G'm, Dick. Ya, give the black power rifle a try. They now hve there where why fire a preloaded black cartege. I have no idea that they cost. Speaking of being jealous of me. I picked this gun from Reik this morning....heheee... It's in .38 Colt/.38S&W! Not black powder anymore. http://cimarron-firearms.com/Conversions/ManNo%20NameConv.htm#