Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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there you go again >>>President Bush and those around him lied, and the rest of us let them. Harsh? Yes. True? Also yes<<<

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Posted by captain america on May 19, 2005 11:38 AM:
dude, not one person is arguing that saddam was a bad mofo. it's a better planet with him and cronies not running the berg. but the world was lied to by the government about the reasons for going to war. that's the objectionable bit.

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Posted by Winston Smith on May 20, 2005 02:11 AM:
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...Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons in great quantity, and he used them. By March, 2003, however, they had been destroyed and Iraq was no longer a WMD threat. This has been established unequivocably by Charles Duelfer and the Iraq Survey Group. The chemical suits were not on anyone because there were no chemical agents to deploy.

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Bill Whittle responds
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Posted by Bill Whittle on May 20, 2005 02:30 AM:
Not to mention the obvious fact that Kerry, Kennedy, Blair, Both Clintons, Daschle, McCain, Lieberman, and so on, and so on, and so on -- everybody -- came to the same conclusion as the president regarding WMD's and went on the record as saying so.

There were many reasons to go into Iraq. "Winston Smith" knows this, and he fixates on this tired WMD issue it because it gives him the most traction to cling to his skewered and antiquated Vietnam era world view.

Saddam had them and used them. No question about that. Ask Hussein Camel about his nuclear program -- oh, wait, you can't do that, can you, your moral Pygmy? He's been murdered for revealing the extent of it to the world.

Remember all the lather you defeatist idiots worked up over "premtive war?" Well, that's what it was: premptive. The problem with finding a smoking gun is that IT HAS ALREADY BEEN FIRED. Moron.

And don't wave 1441 around people that can read. This is not your Freshman Poli-sci crowd. The onus was on Saddam to prove what he did with the WMD's HE ADMITTED he had. All of these sanctions were due to him violating -- as the mudering scumbags you adore always do -- the generous and humane terms given to him after the Coalition handed him his ass in Gulf I. HIS responsibility. R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y. Have someone look it up and explain it to you.

The fact is two nations are free, and the entire region is being transformed before our eyes, and it was most emphatically Not In Your Name, nor in the name of the rest of the miserable, smug, well-fed racist scumbags like yourself who enjoy every freedom and yet are not only not willing to fight for someone elses, or to even countenance the very IDEA. Rather you will emit whatever gases you can to be sure that no such thing ever happens.


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