Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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Syl,
Actually, it is you who are confused, IMO. Comparing the Israelis to the German Nazis is ridiculous. Not everyone who calls themselves a "freedom fighter" is such. Some are just misguided. If you believe that Israel shouldn't exist at all, then I suppose you could consider what the Palestineans are doing "freedom fighting," but even then it is idiotic, but they are deluding themselves if they think that they will achieve their end of driving the Jews into the sea. The fact is, Hitler tried to find a country, any country, to take the German Jews before he conceived of killing them. No one would take them, even though they were about 500,000 pretty well educated and talented people. Not one country would even raise their quota. The Israelis as a group have nowhere to go. Individuals can leave, but millions will remain. They will fight to the death.

If you acknowledge that the UN vote of 1948 was valid, and acknowledge the original two state partition, then simple historical facts must lead you to acknowledge that Israel has had and still has a right to self-defense against Arab aggression.

Furthermore, if you believe this: "My point still stands. As long at their land continues to be occupied and are continued to
be suppressed and killed by the Israeli forces, the Palestinian freedom fighters have a right to fight back by any means necessary," then you must also grant the Israelis the same right--"to fight back by any means necessary."

If what the Palestineans actually want is to live side by side with Israel, then they have adopted the wrong means. If they continue to use these means, it will get worse and worse for them. I think Al Qaeda dropped a bomb in their laps, though, by showing Americans and other countries first hand what terrorism is really about. For some reason, the majority of human beings can't simply imagine terrorism to other people in other countries, it has to happen in their own country, then they get a sense of it. The more countries that Al Qaeda bombs, the more people they kill, the worse it will be for Hamas, Hezbellah and the other terrorist groups that think of themselves of freedom fighters and are really just, well, stupid and reckless with lives, not only their own, but everyone around them.

Sam