brainlessone, The critical point is that many countries are crawling along at some relative state of stoneagism. On the other hand we are way upon a ladder with a long way to fall. I reject war because I believe that it causes far more harm than other means of resolution. Just what is loss of face that one would argue for a year and a half about the shape of a peace table while their soldiers were dying on the battlefield? My question to you would be to consider the path upon which we have embarked. I keep saying the Soviets built 40,000 nuclear weapons, 4000 of them were 20MT, can you account for these devices? What do you think the reaction of the average US citizen would be if we were unfortunate enough to see some of these detonated on our soil? Genocidal madness would ensue and we would plunge into a dark age which would make us regret having our children. On the other Zeev thread some are calling for N. Korean heads to roll. Have you ever read the official web page of the DPRK? They have been spouting rhetoric for years. With our recent chest beating it is only natural to expect this kind of dialogue back. We must not allow this childish behaviour to erupt into something far worse.