Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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This is just getting sillier and sillier. A minute ago you said you weren't defending pacifism. But now you're equating the belief in the necessity of any and every particular war to the bloodlust of Hitler, Mao, Caesar, or Ghengis Khan (are you intentionally quoting John Kerry here?)

So was the United States's war against Hitler, Hitler-like? We're speaking different languages because you live in a world in which there are no moral delineations between good and evil, and apparently no force, no matter how genocidal, that needs to be stopped militarily.

The obvious weakness of this argument is causing you to go off in other directions, such as telling me to enlist or baselessly accusing me of liking war. Dealing with evil is not a matter of good choices and bad, but rather bad (war) and catastrophic (allowing genocides to continue, for instance). That's the nature of the world-- man is flawed, and we're not in a utopian dreamland with a one-world government yet. Sorry. When there are no totalitarian governments anymore, there will be few wars between states. We're a long way from there.