CPAMAN, good reminders.. plus ALMI.. although those folks over there in Utah have been rather silent about the KDS. Their feenominal stock increase from .14 cents to as high as $1.50 (curently about $1.10)... beginning almost from the day they received the KDS to do their work... sort of speaks for the success of the KDS. In other words ALMI is a proxy for the KDS. But I would prefer that FASC be the proxy for its own KDS... with subseqent stock price increase(s).