seems like there was a lot PM going around the last few months which i interpret as valid fear that no one wanted to admit publicly. Burps drunk posts yesterday suggests to me he came out OK on this one. marty is gone wct bills is gone joenatural is saying everything is OK and telling us to buy more. rato is friggin hilarious right now claiming complete failure of the whole thing. its sad, bc this group i think meant well and really worked hard to find the truth. if CCME is a fraud, wtf. dude i am b.r.o.k.e.