The Unabridged History of Winners and Losers

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Nicholas Tanney Nolter on Raging Bull
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By: tanney2 $$
Reply To: None Monday, 30 Jul 2001 at 7:55 PM EDT
Post # of 30732

Rienhard, you and your company owes me over $650,000 dollars and with that said, I am tired of all the lies BUT I will give you and your team a chance to tell the truth.

Sometime tomorrow I will post a list of questions, simple and direct, questions that I have not gotten a straight answer in almost one year.

Tanney
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By: tanney2 $$
Reply To: 30363 by festus20 Tuesday, 31 Jul 2001 at 3:54 PM EDT
Post # of 30732

My relationship is/was credit card processing, and of course all moneys were frozen, a long time ago.
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By: tanney2 $$
Reply To: 30453 by BillsPick $$$ Monday, 6 Aug 2001 at 5:28 PM EDT
Post # of 30732

Hey BillsPicks, I never HID under any rock in my life, in fact I am always the first to stand up even if it means I can get knocked down. As far as my reputation is concerned, I do not worry about what a handful of zines state that hide behind an alias or for that matter what a couple of sports books are saying.

For your inforamtion and all of the stock holders of WINR it would behoove you all to listen to the truth even if it means you would have to be standup, and quit burying your heads under a rock. First off I was the very first company that wrote the software to process online and this was mid 1996. Today I have the strongest, fastest and most secure software online. No one, no company, especially WINR can tell me what is going on, or how the process works. They are liars and they already spent the money otherwise they would have answered the very basic questions I asked earlier.

Continuing forward, two banks that I processed with, Construbanco in Guatemala, under the company Multicredit, SA left me hanging for over $7 million dollars, I sued them over two years ago. The second bank was Paribas under the company Kleline, they screwed me for over $4 million bucks.
and I sued them. They still owe me the money and both cases are in court. Do you or any of the shareholders know how painful this is? Do you or any others know how tough it is paying your clients when your processing pipe is closed down and your income drops to zero?????

Listen pal, you and whomever else out there is talking bad about me, and if you had seven angels on your shoulders, it would still be a lie. Getting back to WINR and the officers, JUST answer the basic questions and answer them to someone who knows the business, me... and as far a suing another company, especially overseas, forget it, maybe Skinner he lives in Florida, maybe..

Nicholas Tanney Nolter
1299 East Commercial Blvd
Fort Lauderdale, Fl. 33334

PS

For the guy who mentioned Michael Hova, the trip was successful, the end result was not. Not one of them, out of eleven,honored the contract, enough said about communist countries.
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By: tanney2 $$
Reply To: 30462 by jaketruth Tuesday, 7 Aug 2001 at 6:59 AM EDT
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WINR's used what is known in the business as ISO, (Independant sales Operators) my company was contacted by one Bruce Brennar out of Texas whom worked as an ISO for WINRS. We filled out the necessary forms, necessary financial information and was approved by WINR's to process through them. Off the top fo my head we did about $750,000 through them in about 1.5 months. They paid us less than $100,000. I heard every excuse in the world from these people, but our hands were tied, they had our money. After sometime the processing just stopped. Same lame excuses I have heard since I got into this business.

Charge backs are a part of this business, however, our system scrubs the transactions better than anyone on the market. We first run the sale through our negative database, 18 million, then we send it through Shared Global, a division of FDC. Then we send it to AVS, (Adress Verification System) only works in the US. We also block all old USSR sales, we do not allow any eastern Euro country to send through transactions, obvious reasons.

So we do our homework and we do it better than anyone. So it was not charge backs coming from us that stopped the account with WINRs', it was probably the BAD business they sent through and there is plenty of bad business out there, believe me.

Anyway, to sum up, they owe my company $650K last count, and I doubt seriously that the bank UBS is holding this money, the money was probably disbursed to WINR's a long time ago and they used this as an excuse to rip off the clients, such as me. If this was not the case, then all they have to do is simple accounting. Pretty basic math stuff, like HOW MUCH is UBS holding? how much is Eurocard holding? how many charge backs were there? SIMPLE BASIC math. We have asked this company and everyone in the company for accounting for the past eight months, they have never complied. Our lawyers have been in touch, BUT to no avail, YES we can sue them, BUT it would cost a fortune and we would not prevail, this I assure you.

To put this thing to bed once and for all, all I ask them to do is basic accounting. If they cannot do that with a public company, is this where all of you want to invest?

Nick
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: tanney2 $$
Reply To: 30488 by Swedelo $$$$ Wednesday, 15 Aug 2001 at 2:23 PM EDT
Post # of 30732

Bandwidth problems? I was the very first Upstream provider in the country, had my first T-3 in Florida back in March of 1996 when the entire backbone of the country was about a T-1.

I brought a full OC-48 fiber link from Bellsouth abd backed it up with a OC-12 from TCG, now ATT,

I have over 25 million in hardware, mostly Cisco, and just happen to be a partner with the Cisco people, go to the site. I am alicensed ALEC, LD214 and have a major Earth Station/Teleport in Davie Florida, which happens to be connected to my main network with an OC-3.

I was the very first to land fiber into Guatemala, very first into Costa Rica and Colombia. And had sat dishes to back it all up.

I was the very first online casino operator in CR, many followed.

Today I have major fiber connections to England and Germany and onwards to India. Plus four T-3's to the Net.

So, sir, what exactly are you talking about? Bandwidth problems? You must know something I do not know, so if you do please print it up so everyone can look..

N
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By: tanney2 $$
Reply To: 30490 by pro_aquatic $$$ Wednesday, 15 Aug 2001 at 2:26 PM EDT
Post # of 30732

Nope no interests except getting our money back. I never met anyone from this company, the agent Bruce signed our company in our CR office. Just the money, nothing else, do not own a share of the stock, in fact do not own a share of any stock..
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By: tanney2 $$
Reply To: 30492 by jaketruth Wednesday, 15 Aug 2001 at 2:30 PM EDT
Post # of 30732

Jake I have three inhouse lawyers, and along with that many large firms either represent me now or have in the past.

I welcome all of you that have been hurt or cheated in this deal to drop me a line, I will pay all legal expenses, all just to get some type of revenge.

here is my e-mail: [e-mail]

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By: tanney2 $$
Reply To: 30551 by jaketruth Sunday, 2 Sep 2001 at 9:18 AM EDT
Post # of 30732

Hi Jake,

Not a problem, our inhouse counsel will be happy to produce our lawsuit and evidence, in fact I will place it online within a few days..

In the meantime and at this stage I really do not care, you can reach our lawyers at: [e-mail]
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By: tanney2 $$
Reply To: 30580 by Neutralizer $$$ Wednesday, 5 Sep 2001 at 8:45 AM EDT
Post # of 30732

HI Neutralizer and everyone else...

I am assuming you took the name "Neutralizer" to either being a Neutral party or you can "Neutralize' any situation, either way, good name...

Now back to your statement: "How can Tanney back up his statements" Well Neut, I made the statements, I called them liars, cheats and con men. Can I prove it, of course I can and I will in time. BUT, if someone called me a cheat, a liar, or anything bad, I would defend it, wouldn't you Neut? So isn't it surprising to you and all the others, that not one word from any of the WINR board, officers or directors.

This is my last post to all of you fine folks that lost money, I truly wish you all the best and I mean that..