Bart - your guess is as good as anyone's, but the filings (yrs of filings) seem to indicate Ray was paid, and then some (i.e. overpaid) during the years NVI reports he was not paid...(in the recent 8K). There are more contradictions than you can shake a stick at with this company; 99% of which are generated by the company itself, not through the postings of opinions on this board.