MAC, you are right about the emotion part on the board with KATX the reason is we all got attached to KATX very emotionally and had very high hopes in the beginning when things came less than expected, it was frustrating on the other hand, we felt close to KEN and trusted him way more than we should of ever had when his way of communicating changed, there was more frustration to add to the results that were not very promising now to sum it up, add to that undelivered promises and it give you the picture of why the board is acting this way including longs the boat picture will be up when the weather warms up LOL too cold now minus 30's