Fung_Derf YOU ARE WRONG!!!
For crying out loud just admit it and move on... Im not saying that Zen isn't a pumper, I don't know either way, but anyone with 5 mins can go back and look at Zen's post, compare them to the PR's and see that you are wrong. You are doing nothing for your cause... whatever that may be, to argue this point... every post you make just makes more people go back and find out you are wrong... whatever credibility you are trying to gain out of this is beyond me!
No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money. Matthew 6:24