I went thru all this with them last night....but they still see hope, and speculation. maybe from this... http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=58718009 some people just cant see the facts and use common sense. If you want to try and flip it for what it is and call it that, fine....but all this talk of the company coming out of BK with holders intact is crazy. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=58733000