yes and some were even so sure when they sold in the low to mid .03s it was a "good" move...people will always be pro and against stocks but this one with a CEO who has had past success in JVs (12 while at Cornerstone) and many promising properties with something going on each of them, why would anybody doubt what they are trying to do at all? A "backpocket" stock is why I like KATX I buy shares when I can and hold em in the ol pocket for a while until one of those properties gets us a nice NSR % through a JV or several IMO...