jeff, I appreciate your support when it comes to truth, I know it appears that my comment have a negitive tone but I was only asking a simple question yeaterday and got mugged. The fact is that IBCS is not this flawless jewel and talk of the shortcomings is what gets action/improvments.. its called growth. Why sit around and pat D+D all day and turn a blind eye to why we are not going up and cant hold onto new share holders...very few new names posting whith enthusiasum the last 6 months or so. Cant be happy with what IBCS is now willing to except as payment for services, I think its time to hire a real sales rep so ibcs can start recieveing cash again instead of sitting around waiting for a phone call from the ceo of a scam company who was given the phone # by a raging bull poster as in the case of ICAN. whew that was a long one. lol