I have enjoyed your posts for as long as I can remember. Please don't take my answer to be calling you or Larry a liar. I don't know what the truth is at this point. My intent was only to repeat what I said earlier about each of us doing their own DD. I have no reason to discount your scenario. I too have had access to Ken's phone but I don't think I rate high enough to use it. I'm a small time <but long> holder in the company. Many of you have 6+ digit holdings. I'm not quite there yet so I maintain my own opinion on how much I matter :) I respect your opinion as well as many on this board <including Gump's> even when I have disagreed. I just find it "sad" that the board has been overrun by all of these new faces with disgruntled opinions. But I'm sure they have their own agenda as we all do.