Posted by Noquit a couple of minutes ago....read! Here is the link to what roger is trying to refer to: http://www.secform4.com/filings/13055/000107878210002059.htm Nothing was sold, but converted, and still not traded. Be careful roger, as intentional stock manipulation, even on a stock forum, can be construed as a crime. If you don't know how to read a form, first ask someone. The last shares he sold was in Oct of 2009.