Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:39:54 PM
Peg, Assange's motives are clearly in those documents for all to see .. basically according to them he is anti-authoritarian unjust behavior, for openness, and against 'conspiracy' .. his definition of conspiracy being secret dealings in authoritarian government or corporations .. here it is
"The problem this creates for the government conspiracy then becomes the organizational problem it must solve: if the conspiracy must operate in secrecy, how is it to communicate, plan, make decisions, discipline itself, and transform itself to meet new challenges? The answer is: by controlling information flows. After all, if the organization has goals that can be articulated, articulating them openly exposes them to resistance. But at the same time, failing to articulate those goals to itself deprives the organization of its ability to process and advance them. Somewhere in the middle, for the authoritarian conspiracy, is the right balance of authority and conspiracy.
His model for imagining the conspiracy, then, is not at all the cliché that people mean when they sneer at someone for being a “conspiracy theorist.” After all, most the “conspiracies” we’re familiar with are pure fantasies, and because the “Elders of Zion” or James Bond’s SPECTRE have never existed, their nonexistence becomes a cudgel for beating on people that would ever use the term or the concept. For Assange, by contrast, a conspiracy is something fairly banal, simply any network of associates who act in concert by hiding their concerted association from outsiders, an authority that proceeds by preventing its activities from being visible enough to provoke counter-reaction. It might be something as dramatic as a loose coalition of conspirators working to start a war with Iraq/n, or it might simply be the banal, everyday deceptions and conspiracies of normal diplomatic procedure.
He illustrates this theoretical model by the analogy of a board with nails hammered into it and then tied together with twine:"
from here .. https://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/julian-assange-and-the-computer-conspiracy-%E2%80%9Cto-destroy-this-invisible-government%E2%80%9D/ .. the 2nd link here .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57523873
Even simpler from the 2nd post in here .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.aspx?msg=57528224 .. in answer to Time asking him what his purpose was, he said ..
"So, here’s his moral calculus: “We are an organization that tries to make the world more
civil and act against abusive organizations that are pushing it in the opposite direction.”"
It seems he has tried to tread a line, so as not to act illegally, and has only, as far as i know released redacted versions as the others did.
"WikiLeaks is not the only publisher of the US embassy cables. Other media outlets, including Britain's The
Guardian, The New York Times, El Pais in Spain and Der Spiegel in Germany have published the same redacted cables."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57496196&txt2find=redacted
LOL, talk about hypocrisy .. how about PayPal ..
"PayPal today admitted it suspended payments to WikiLeaks after an intervention from the US State Department.
The site's vice-president of platform, Osama Bedier, told an internet conference the site had decided to freeze
WikiLeaks's account on 4 December after government representatives said it was engaged in illegal activity."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57520851&txt2find=paypal
who certainly didn't cut service to the Bush administration, or to the Israeli government, or to how many
other organization which have acted illegally .. when in fact so far as i know wikileaks has not.
"The problem this creates for the government conspiracy then becomes the organizational problem it must solve: if the conspiracy must operate in secrecy, how is it to communicate, plan, make decisions, discipline itself, and transform itself to meet new challenges? The answer is: by controlling information flows. After all, if the organization has goals that can be articulated, articulating them openly exposes them to resistance. But at the same time, failing to articulate those goals to itself deprives the organization of its ability to process and advance them. Somewhere in the middle, for the authoritarian conspiracy, is the right balance of authority and conspiracy.
His model for imagining the conspiracy, then, is not at all the cliché that people mean when they sneer at someone for being a “conspiracy theorist.” After all, most the “conspiracies” we’re familiar with are pure fantasies, and because the “Elders of Zion” or James Bond’s SPECTRE have never existed, their nonexistence becomes a cudgel for beating on people that would ever use the term or the concept. For Assange, by contrast, a conspiracy is something fairly banal, simply any network of associates who act in concert by hiding their concerted association from outsiders, an authority that proceeds by preventing its activities from being visible enough to provoke counter-reaction. It might be something as dramatic as a loose coalition of conspirators working to start a war with Iraq/n, or it might simply be the banal, everyday deceptions and conspiracies of normal diplomatic procedure.
He illustrates this theoretical model by the analogy of a board with nails hammered into it and then tied together with twine:"
from here .. https://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/julian-assange-and-the-computer-conspiracy-%E2%80%9Cto-destroy-this-invisible-government%E2%80%9D/ .. the 2nd link here .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57523873
Even simpler from the 2nd post in here .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.aspx?msg=57528224 .. in answer to Time asking him what his purpose was, he said ..
"So, here’s his moral calculus: “We are an organization that tries to make the world more
civil and act against abusive organizations that are pushing it in the opposite direction.”"
It seems he has tried to tread a line, so as not to act illegally, and has only, as far as i know released redacted versions as the others did.
"WikiLeaks is not the only publisher of the US embassy cables. Other media outlets, including Britain's The
Guardian, The New York Times, El Pais in Spain and Der Spiegel in Germany have published the same redacted cables."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57496196&txt2find=redacted
LOL, talk about hypocrisy .. how about PayPal ..
"PayPal today admitted it suspended payments to WikiLeaks after an intervention from the US State Department.
The site's vice-president of platform, Osama Bedier, told an internet conference the site had decided to freeze
WikiLeaks's account on 4 December after government representatives said it was engaged in illegal activity."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57520851&txt2find=paypal
who certainly didn't cut service to the Bush administration, or to the Israeli government, or to how many
other organization which have acted illegally .. when in fact so far as i know wikileaks has not.
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