Check out the named researchers who were on the panel (they are named in the slides) and tell me if they are hacks. Agreed. Philip Kantoff and Howard Scher. By the way, I personally don't need those people to interpret the data for me. I had seen tons of oncology data in the past 10 years. Is the effect durable? We don't know yet. Exactly. There is no guranteed success in drug development.