5 to 8 years is way too long to wait.If the company starts some of the many promised things soon the share price should go up.I would hate to see us at this level at year end but the short term does not look promising.I wonder if Glen has some pleasant surprises to announce with or after the CE removal. I am getting desperate here. The interview was good enough to give us a few more ticks but it is my opinion that short term thinkers are getting out and holding us in 0.0004 to 0.0006 range. anyway this is better than the .0002 to .0003 range that we say recently.