Yes, we both saw how the MMs can control (to the investor's disadvantage) the pps. HTDS is a classic case. I too expected much more, and considering the good news (unless it were all lies?) one would have expected the pps to rise accordingly. From my investing experience, the penny stocks are subject to the whims of the MMs, not the news nor the investing public's desire to see the rise in pps. And since the pps is controlled by the buys vs sells, if the MMs have a controlling percentage of shares, they control it. What we are seeing from EPGL now is typical of what I've seen with other penny stocks when GOOD NEWS is out. It's like the old addage, "no good deed goes unpunished". However, as long as the good news is TRUE news, and EPGL has the contracts it claims it has with WebMD and the USMC and possibly the Army, the good news will eventually reveal itself in a realistic rise in pps that will be the best news for us investors.