Jim, Here is one of the insurance companies. Highly respected til last year.
Conseco, Inc. is a financial services holding company with subsidiaries operating throughout the United States. CNCE is a source for insurance, investment and lending products. Through its subsidiaries and a national network of insurance agents and finance dealers, CNCE provides solutions for wealth protection and wealth creation. For the six months ended 6/30/02, revenues fell 20% to $3.38 billion. Net loss applicable to Common before extraordinary item and acc't change totaled $1.44 billion[/] vs. an income of $54.6 million. Results reflect lower insurance policy income and higher special charges.