I do not have a position in either of those but... here is what I like to do. When I am entering a stock, I will do a board search for the stock ticker.. see who is "pumping it" and if I recognize the players as pumpers.. I will do the DD with red flags waving in my head. I do not know anything about those stocks so I will not pretend I do. Get to know the I hub players... who you trust... and who has a track record of the big dump and they are... wheeew ...gone. All my best.