dick, remember Dragnet? .. just the facts, ma'am .. where do you get your " retirement with full pay at age 50" from? See the table in here .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retirement and http://aleksandreia.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/greek-retirement-age-and-more-on-the-greek-debt-crisis/ There are two, now give us a link for your "full pay at 50" or .. whatever .. it's no fun having to check your friggin' facts alla toime.