Zeev, I will look forward to the december call. By the way who was PM of Hungary in 1956 when Rusky tanks killed off the revolution? Was it Nagy? This i understand. 1956 was an interesting year--hungary and suez war. 1967 was too--6 day war and killing czech revolution(Dubcek). These thoughts came from free association of my lack of understanding of your hungarian. We are old and have trouble remembering what we ate yesterday. But not what happened 50 years ago. Marv