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Fox News overlooked voter-intimidation allegations against Minutemen
July 19, 2010 12:06 pm ET — 27 Comments
In contrast to Fox News' repeated hyping of voter-intimidation charges against members of the New Black Panther Party during the 2008 election, a search of the Nexis database indicates that Fox News' top shows did not report on similar allegations that members of the Minutemen harassed Hispanic voters at an Arizona polling center in 2006. .. more in .. http://mediamatters.org/research/201007190022
NOW The last two comments which appear to me to be a TKO to the bottom one ..
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by commonsense0818 (July 19, 2010 6:21 pm ET)
Yet another attempt by Media Matters to try and prove they have even the slightest relevance in American society, however falling flat on their face once again. First off, charges were filed against the Black Panthers for their obvious voter intimidation. The Black Panthers didn't even show up to their own hearing, giving the judgment to the DOJ without even having to argue the case. After getting their judgment, the DOJ dropped most charges and gave a somewhat slap on the wrist to the individual who was bearing the baton (He can't go to that same polling place until 2012, but he can go anywhere else). In the Arizona case, however, there were never any charges filed. Why? Because there wasn't hardly any evidence that supported the allegations (Notice their use of the word "allegedly"). Actually, there were more witnesses that contradicted those allegations, hence why no charges were ever filed. So why would these allegations require National Media? Answer: They wouldn't, not unless whoever reported on the story wanted to be the next Dan Rather. It also explains why NONE of the other major media outlets reported on the Arizona case either (including MSNBC and CNN). Why doesn't the author mention that? Obviously it must have slipped the author's mind (Yeah right!)
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To me on all i have seen, pearlene_scott1602, looks the winner by TKO over 'commonsense0818'... haven't included emphasis ..
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by pearlene_scott1602 (July 21, 2010 11:14 pm ET)
First off, charges were filed against the Black Panthers for their obvious voter intimidation.
Interesting?
It was the Bush DOJ who CHOOSE to make a CIVILcharge NOT a criminal charge against the NBP with violating Section 11(b) of the Civil Rights Act of 1965.
After reviewing the matter, the Civil Rights Division determined that the facts did not constitute a prosecutable violation of the criminal statutes. The Department did, however, file a civil action on January 7th, 2009, seeking injunctive and declaratory relief under 11(b) against four defendants.
The complaint alleged that the defendants violated Section 11(b) because they attempted to engage in and engaged in both voter intimidation and intimidation of individuals aiding voters.
Section 11 (b) of the Voting Rights act is rarely used and difficult to try.
In fact, we can find records of only three cases filed by the government under Section 11(b) since its inception.
The standards for proof are high. And, as in every case, the question to be addressed is whether the evidence is sufficient to sustain the burden of proof. And on that question, reasonable minds can differ and can look at the same set of facts but draw different conclusions regarding whether the burden of proof has been met.
The Black Panthers didn't even show up to their own hearing, giving the judgment to the DOJ without even having to argue the case.
Department had a continuing legal and ethical obligation to ensure that any relief sought was consistent with the law and supported by the evidence.
After getting their judgment, the DOJ dropped most charges and gave a somewhat slap on the wrist to the individual who was bearing the baton (He can't go to that same polling place until 2012, but he can go anywhere else).
The maximum penalty for conviction on a charge of voter intimidation under federal guidelines is a fine and/or no more than one year in prison.
Section 11(b) does not authorize any other kinds of relief, such as criminal penalties, monetary damages, or civil penalties.
In the Arizona case, however, there were never any charges filed. Why? Because there wasn't hardly any evidence that supported the allegations (Notice their use of the word "allegedly"). Actually, there were more witnesses that contradicted those allegations, hence why no charges were ever filed
Really? If a nightstick is considered a weapon WHY wouldn't a loaded GUN be considered a weapon by the Bush DOJ?
Any evidence?.... Really?
Diego Bernal, a staff attorney with the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF), said the trio was trying to intimidate Hispanic voters. "A gun, a camera, a clipboard before you even get to the polls - if that's not voter intimidation, what is?" he asked.
Bernal said his group encountered the men at the Precinct 49 polling place at South 12th Avenue and West Michigan Street and began documenting the scene with their cameras. "There was an interesting period where they were taking pictures of us taking pictures of them."
Seems like you can make your exact same case with the Bush DOJ? I mean, could it be the Bush DOJ didn't want to anger the rabid White anti-immigration who they rely on to get elected?
And last, but not least -- vigilantes
On Election Day, a posse of three men in Tucson, Ariz., proved that the Wild West still lives.
The group, which was three strong, and allegedly composed of two anti-immigration activists, Russ Dove and Roy Warden, carried a camcorder, a clipboard -- on which, they said, was information about a proposed law to make English the state's official language -- and a gun. While one man would approach a voter, holding the clipboard, another would follow, pointing the video camera at them. The third would stand behind, holding his hand to the gun at his hip in what activists on the other side called classic voter intimidation tactics in a precinct one local paper had previously declared the bellwether of the area's Hispanic vote.
It's not the first time Dove and Warden have been accused of this type of act. Dove, who is a convicted felon and former militia member, patrolled Arizona's polls in 2004 as well, and Warden has publicly burned a Mexican flag (for which he was charged with arson) and acknowledged that he sought a concealed-carry permit for a gun, partly in hopes of enticing a local police officer to attack him and force Warden to use deadly force in self-defense.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201007190022
You have to agree, i hope, that all in there gives a more complete picture of the NBP case than your Fox video did.
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