And ESR said the same thing but if you check the charts in the last 2 weeks we have had huge block sells of 15 million or 20 million down at.0018 and .002, we could have a third party doing it for the company or it was the company itself, we have seen it in many stocks, the last stock I lost huge in that is exactly what they did, a group bought up a ton of shares hired a group to promote it and then they sold at .over .02 and the stock fell back to .0025. That is why we all need the numbers updted and news so we will finally have some facts and DD to at least support a PPS wherevever that is so we have some value we can place on our shares going forwartd etc. Just sitting back holding what I have and not willing to add anything until the ocmpany does what it said it would do weeks ago. JMO.