The Jailhouse

[CharleyMike]

<IMO he has made every effort to help Joe and be very calm and clear about what is expected of him in the way of behavior change.

Yep, and therein lies the problem that BOP and I, among others have been trying to express. BOP gathered his thoughts a bit faster and expressed them eloquently.#msg-518756 I agree with him.

Trying to change someone's behavior indicates to them that they are considered lacking in some characteristic that is required for acceptance by the person attempting to influence the change. Most men and women with self respect have a certain resentment toward folks that make those behavioral suggestions.

I can only speak for me ~ I'm accepting of help so long as I request it ~ If I don't request it ~ not only do I not want it, I resent the implication that I need it. I'm even more resentful of bystanders, with no involvement in my personal affairs, who feel they must assist or intervene. Maybe it's a throwback thing, maybe it's a Wild West thing, who knows. But in some cultures, yes, even here in America, people who intrude in others' affairs sometimes die early.

I commend Joe for his patience in dealing with a group of people who think themselves his superior. I am astonished he hasn't blasted the whole group, packed up his stock insights, and gone elsewhere.

Fred's a nice guy. We agree on some things, and disagree on others. I, personally, think he's outta' bounds here but that counts for little. I also have a lot of respect for Matt and what he has accomplished in his few years, but I think his attitude toward Joe needs some work.