by the way I have to say IMO the 14th hole at Pebble is pretty much "goofy golf" there's no way that the top golfers in the world should be making 8s and 9s on that hole on a daily basis Poulter hit his 3rd shot 4 ft left of the pin yesterday and he ended up making a NINE the margin for error is ridiculous, the left side of the green should not be shaved... but I guess everyone loves a good train wreck but jeeze what a beautiful piece of property,, would love to play it at least once some day