I have no idea since I don't do that. But somehow I get the impression you don't want to get my point. This company threatens to go to the pinks pretty soon and I wouldn't invest any hard earned money right now but I know you don't care so I wish you that they file soon and that the numbers are really good. I much rather will then buy higher instead of investing here at 60 cents without a word from the company and no financials but that's just me. People are different in their opinions and that's what makes a market. I'm already happy if you at least get the point I was trying to make.