kamal, got put on hold they are finishing up another case. maybe i will get lucky today with WAMU and with MESA bouncing around this morning find a decent entry point for more shares.i look at karma in life and sometimes get the feeling that i am due (said only with the greatest of humility). i will definitely pm about the bolliest. i know you and h discuss charts a bunch. i really need to learn more about that. i am getting the feeling that with just fundamentals you are investing/trading with just 1/2 the picture or something like that. matt