the 3x is actually possible with alot more court. possible years more. $8 should be the minimum offered with a definite and almost immediate answer of no. a $12 offer would probably be jumped on in a heart beat. $10 they will say let us think about it, but would probably be accepted as well. Any price over $12 could take alot of time to get a better price. They shouldnt even present $8 now knowing that the ec will not play games and that $8 didnt work before. $10 seems highly probable to be the first new offer.