sorry, i know it was bit off topic but it seemed very familiar to me. there is just so much insider trading and collusion in the markets it seemed to be like wild wild west for the crooks in the know during the time the markets were getting crushed. For what its worth, a frind does BKs for a living and is very good at it. he said to me TPG could have very well been investing in wamu as a hedge to his real intentions. Bonderman would have been the wolf in sheep ghillie suit. of course jmho