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Sunday, 02/07/2010 7:39:49 PM

Sunday, February 07, 2010 7:39:49 PM

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Hello masko..i read your post here yesterday and didnt comment as i didnt have the time. I also just read the past few post from you and thrifty and excel....and as thrifty usually does...she backs up her thoughts and beliefs with scripture...just as all of us here try to do.

Now 1st of all...in your post you come to the "Bible" board and make a statement such as you did....asking if the Bible or scripture is "unerring"...which after i went to my trusty dictionary...i find that to mean....

Committing no mistakes; consistently accurate

And then you offer scripture saying or suggesting that the Bible IS NOT unerring.

Which in my mind...all you did was take a couple scriptures about the same subject...compaire them in your own worldly way...and say...See there...the Bible is wrong...it lies! If you would have bothered to do a little research on your own...you might have found the answer to your thought or question....you know...seek and you will find. But hey...thats cool...thats what we are here for.....Anyway, sense you didnt...and even when you got a perfectly good answer from thrifty...instead of saying thank you....you get in her face about something that you obviously know nothing about in the 1st place. We all use other peoples words and thoughts here to help others understand...and thrifty even put the article in her own words. As thrifty stated.... By Doris Mataya (edited by me)

We are all here to answer in the best way that we can...when we have the time... hopefully by the guidance of the Holy Spirit....But for you to talk down just because you dont like the way someone tried to help you...is a little out there. You will find that the books of Matthew..Mark..Luke...John...all have accounts of the same things...but told in different ways. But it is all the spoken word of God!

Here is a message i listen to awhile back...John MacArthur takes a full hour to answer your thought or question about the genealogy of Jesus...after you listen...you will know way more than you really want to about the two scriptures that you posted. Sorry this is another persons thoughts....but as for me...i learn best from other people...wink/wink. Do have a great night and let us know what you think of scriptures answer through John MacArthur message.

To give you one short answer from the message......

In Matthew's genealogy you go back through Solomon to David. In Luke's genealogy you go back through Nathan to David. So you have two different lines. You have one being all the people who came out of Solomon..other, all the people who came out of Nathan.
Secondly, Matthew identifies Jesus' grandfather as Jacob, a man named Jacob. It says Jesus' earthly father was Joseph and his father was Jacob. But Luke says, look at it at the end of verse 23, that Jesus' grandfather's name is Eli, or Heli. So Luke says Jesus' grandfather is Heli, or Eli. Matthew says his grandfather is Jacob. Now this is a difference. So you've got two sons of David, that's different and you've got two grandfathers of Jesus, one being Jacob in the genealogy of Matthew, one being Eli in the genealogy of Luke. Both are royal lines because both come out of David. Solomon comes out of David, Nathan comes out of David, you have both those royal lines.

You'd be amazed how people struggle to try to explain that. I don't know what the struggle is all about. Everybody has two genealogies like that. One is maternal and one is paternal. In Matthew you have the genealogy of Joseph through his father Jacob back to David through Solomon. In Luke you have the genealogy of Mary through her father, Eli. So Jesus, like everybody, had two grandfathers...he had a paternal grandfather through his father named Jacob, he had a grandfather through his mother named Eli. Now it's very important to note this. What you have then in Matthew is the genealogy of Jesus back through Joseph. In Luke is the genealogy of Jesus back through Mary.


The Messiah's Royal Lineage
John MacArthur
http://www.gty.org/Resources/Sermons/42-48_The-Messiahs-Royal-Lineage?



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