Copeland's battles with past management were verbalized as you state. Can't blame him when the real bread and butter of this company gets shoved to the sideline to pursue something that is quick and easy. Mr. Copeland has a dream and a vision of the AV becoming a reality and to see the company's meager assets diverted to the saas products was not easy to take I am sure. I am equally sure that as one of the company's founders he was fairly vocal about his distaste for the direction management was taking his company.