i'm not hanging *my hat* on anything it's a fact that *nite* couldn't fill trades at the ask in under 21 minutes that is *fact* not fiction ~ and when i post out exph's tape at com .. one and all can see what was *done* and when including those lovely 5k signals .. :)) the patterns in play are no different than they have been for *months* like i said .. learning to read rt l2 enables me to dca shares .. fairly close to the *low of the day* .. what others do is their business X-D -- 4kids all jmo