samplescave, here's where your souffle has fallen flat. again. the fact is "real investors" HAVE seen this pdf already. imo they have already been accumulating and will push hard when the time comes. did you see the MM JSUP suck up every share they could grab between .017 and .019 a few days ago? why yes, you did. of course you did. it's penny players, being scammed by the bears, who weren't yet privy to this material from duff and phelps. now they are. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44747156 hate all you want, but it still rings hollow. imo you're just a buzzard circling for cheapies.