That's what I'm saying it seems like they won't have any other choice but to R/s. 2010 or not it will be a huge flip. Unless these guys plan on buying back shares which everybody knows is a pipe dream. In july you could call terry and actually speak with as I did but now this guy is incognito. I got a better chance of getting in touch with Osama. If he was being a lil bit more transparent i might be more encouraged but the way he is doing this now well it just pisses me off