puff, why is it that anyone saying they've hit large quantities is wrong, yet someone like yourself attack them as wrong... like you *know*? The most consistently right person on this board is Nick. "Nobody knows nuttin" That includes those posting "bigger than AKPO" and you calling them wrong. I agree with you that an AKPO+ find can't be substantiated. But it can't be unsubstantiated either, no matter how hard you try.