CNOA: Too ashamed to tell my family....... That I am now underwater on a company that sells FOOD in China! How can you f**k up THAT investment ?........:) I thought Pappys numbers were high but his low end numbers were possible. A .10-.12 was more in line with my estimate. Obviously no one thought they would have NO income from the other segment. Thats as solid a kick in the ass I have gotten in the last few years in the market.....even last years meltdown. Disappointing and agravating. I am going to hang in there however. The cow is out of the barn at this point.