Things are looking up for me. There appears to be some good opportunities out there. Dave and Low have supplied some good tips (Plato's). I doubled on Lowroller's ELSO the weekend he suggested it, thanks again. Now picking up Dave's (what he buys)DYN and worldcom for a longer hold. As they say, low downside risk (ya gotta love penny stocks) - good chance of a significant long term gain. It's one gain-at-a-time now, a little at a time but there are ways to make a buck in this market.