Tornado Alley (PROG)

[omegahpla]

"even the CIA didn't believe Saddam had WMD "

Oh really? They said they thought he did, were they lying? lol

You have your line right out of the lefty propaganda encyclopedia, but it's not right.

There was nothing debunked, and Cheney only gave facts about terrorists being in Iraq, which they were. He didn't say he knew Saddam had anything to do with 911, but an intelligent person understanding that some of those connected were in Iraq would be curious as to whether Saddam had some input. After all they did have training camps in Iraq. To say Cheney lied? that doesn't follow the actual events. That is a revision of history.

Yeah, we invaded Iraq because they would not comply with resolution 17 and they had complied with none of the others either, they broke the treaty which said we would go continue what was started in Gulf War I and every nation in the Security council thought he had WMD and was a danger to use it. John Kerry and Hillary Clinton thought so and most of the other democrats ... were they in on it? lol?

You have a story in your head about this, but it's almost totally wrong and your facts are messed up.

Water boarding was never torture until some tried to make some political points and played shell games with the meaning as Obama is playing shell games with health care numbers, you probably buy that too? What other countries use Water boarding and don't call it torture? Every one with a standing army maybe?

Now, Obama still uses rendition, take out torture, and that's not just getting wet and afraid you will drown because of a reflex, they inflict real damage. You think that's ok? Or you are going to tell me I'm wrong, aren't you?

You probably didn't like the patriot act under Bush, but are fine with the one Obama made more invasive for our citizens, is that true?

Now you are going to say I need links, when you had none, typical lol. I'll do some research and come back when I have time. I'll bring informaiton, and you won't like it (ask medicare expert boy over there), I promise you, unless you really want to see the truth, and won't be totally bummed out and clinging to your propaganda because the support of your team is what's important to you. I know this is more like a cult to you than a reasonable collection of knowledge. The propaganda is important to push your team over the other.

Now I made some assumptions about you that I normally wouldn't without finding out. But since you alread played that, I figure why not ; )