BUCKEYE:i think any news before november is wishfull thinking,been saying it all along and will continue to do so.although i did not expect them to,they did not follow up on the ceo change on oct.1st.what makes you think they will put anything out of substance going into the november earnings? believe me i wish they would as most here would attest,but i don't think it's in the plans for them to do so.