did i say they did having access to rt l2 just shows if there is a bid and ask or if any patterns come into play like watching a legit buy on aerp in dec of 2007 of 5M shares at the ask <.0039> that would then be shorted down in 5 trades to .003 btw .. no i don't think it was retail that consistently *eroded* aerp's pps and it's ok to disagree with me i understand completely -- 4kids all jmo