4kids, will you please post the reply you received from David Patch that you said you would " post back to this venue ~ when i get a response from david patch" It seems he replied to your questions, so I am curious why you are not posting his answer here for everyone to read? He did reply, correct? http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=41993280 -------------------------- well i'll shoot him an email/edit and ask for verification underdog i've seen too many *oddities* to take anything at face value will post back to this venue ~ when i get a response from david patch edit >>>> i'm having a tough time *reconciling* the david patch i'm aware re: the SEC and NSS with one who *relies* on the ny post for *insight* odd stuff indeed ~