i think its pretty sad over all.. pisses me off whenever i see stocks I was in brought up in the posts... for sure.. but its going to be interesting... as far as the mistakes.. if it wasn't driving the money it would have been something else... anyway... cannot wait to see the next chapter unfold.. the other sad thing is i like some of the eight.. and not fond of a few.. and some never even heard of. but what i do know is the scams were specific to ihub. and I was here through that timeframe trying to eek out a buck or two. real