i agree wholeheartedly about that. i have followed tehm for a few years. granted it wasnt nearly with the same effort as i put into the ndx. i am far from tuned into bonds yet, but one thing is for sure. when they turn they tend to run a good ways and a good distance. that said, maybe the best way to play them is let them make the turn then jump on for the ride. of course thats not in my nature but would improve my results so i should give it a strong consideration.