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Re: Durkkdiggler post# 35484

Monday, 07/20/2009 7:16:43 PM

Monday, July 20, 2009 7:16:43 PM

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From Emails with Mr. Luiten today.
Durkk, maybe you can do some DD and call the TA now!

Mr. Luiten,

Thank you for your complete and informative reply. All my questions were answered. Thanks again for your "stand and deliver" management style.

Do you have any objections or conditions to my posting your email replies on the IH board?

Reply:

I have no objection if you post my E-mail reply on the IH board. I look forward to continue this open door policy of "stand and deliver" Q&A. The SEC will give us restrictions on what answers I will be able to provide, but I guess it"s up to us to deal with the specifics.

Thanks

Robert Luiten
CEO
Zenergy International Inc.


Mr. Luiten,

I would appreciate your answer to a few questions relating to your work at INEOS Phenol. I have been pretty hard on Zenergy on the IH stock board. It is frustrating to try and exchange information and build confidence in a potential investment using such a board. I am not sure of the rules you are under, SEC and all, but I feel questions are best dealt with in a "stand and deliver" format. Tell it as it is and move on. I hope you like that approach, so I ask:

1. Did you know Mr. Mannsfeld prior to his lawsuit and did he ask you to check into your company's use of his idea?

2. Did you know his idea was patented in Europe by people who did not invent the process?

3. Were you still working for INEOS when you formed Zenergy International, Inc. as a Nevada corporation and when you signed a contract with Blue Diamond Ventures (BLDV)?

I would really like to put these questions to rest. You seem one of the few able to answer them.

Thank you for your attention,


Reply:
I'm unsure how Mr Mannsfeld case and Zenergy are connected, but I have in principal no problem answering your questions if this clarifies certain issues.
I knew Mr Mannsfeld while he was working for Degussa, the parent company of Phenolchemie GmbH before it was bought by INEOS.

The patented "invention" in my view is an improvement on older existing technology and use of a product stream that was tested by Phenolchemie at earlier date but was not capable of producing the quality needed to make a chemical product called carbon black out of the product stream. Mr Mannsfeld contribution was that he suggested again to the former Phenolchemie CEO to use the stream as carbon black feedstock in Degussa's own Carbon Black production facilities. The use as carbon black feedstock was only possible after the German Phenolchemie/INEOS Phenol team made the improvement inventions over time and patented these. Mr Mannsfeld was to my personal knowledge not involved in making these actual improvement inventions. To my knowledge Dr Mannsfeld and INEOS settled their claims recently.

I worked with INEOS under an European contract. European contracts don't provide for two week notices. I worked out a deal with INEOS in which I started to work for the at that time newly formed Zenergy, and also was available for INEOS to perform the COO duties during the process of finding the next COO and to facilitate the training and transfer of the COO duties. As a well suited local INEOS Phenol internal candidate was promoted the transfer was done realtively quickly.

I hope this answers your questions, and look forward to continue to hear from you.

Robert Luiten
CEO
Zenergy International Inc.


Mr. Luiten,

Your response is very informative and appreciated. I understand your uncertainty as to how I tie Zenergy with Dr. Mannsfeld. It goes to your management style. I must say the mere fact you replied is very impressine to me and dispells many clouds for me. Thanks again.

There is one thing that maybe personal, but perhaps you over-looked it. "Did he (Mr. Mannsfel d) ask you to check into your company's use of his idea?" I know you both served the Chamber of Commerce, Mobile, Alabama for some time together. Just seemed natural and I wondered if that happened and how you responded. The case is settled now and I understand your view of it. Some things never are settled - just cases.


Reply:
Dr Mannsfeld made his suggestion prior to 1997 during my visit as part of the Phenolchemie site selection team for the proposed phenol production facility. Mr Mannsfeld followed up with a letter to our CEO in Germany, pointing out the strenghts of the proposed site next to the Degussa property, which included the same suggestion. Once the manufacturing complex and the patented improvements were installed in Mobile, the Deguss a carbon black division to both Dr Mannsfeld and my regrett elected not to use this feedstock (commercial issues between the at that time both Degussa companies) and an other customer was found. Mr Mannsfeld was not put on the patent, as in the eyes of the INEOS team at that time did not contribute in an significant way (neither was my name put on it) to the invention. Under german laws employees named on a patent have the right to receive a defined royalty if the employer uses the patented invention. Starting in 2002, after his retirement, Dr Mannsfeld started to make claims as a co-inventor which eventually went to court in 2006 and actual trial in 2008 with was later settled between the parties.

Thanks

Robert Luiten
CEO
Zenergy International

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